Distance (round-trip)

10.4 mi

Time

4.5 hrs

Elevation Gain

2740 ft

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A great hike in the lower San Gabriels to incredible vistas, forested mountain canyons, and the ruins of a turn-of-the-century mountaintop resort. Bonus enjoyment for history buffs, in the form of plaques and markers placed along the ruins and the route of an old railroad through the mountains.

Note: If you just want to hike to the Echo Mountain ruins, the hike will be about 6 miles roundtrip.

One of the first things you’ll see on the trail is a marker placed by the Altadena Historical Society, marking the entrance to the former Cobb Estate, and the Echo Mountain trailhead. You will see many more plaques along the way. The Historical Society has really done a fantastic job of researching, maintaining, and marking all of the points of interest along this route — and there are plenty of them.

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The Cobb Estate belonged to a wealthy lumber magnate, and had several gold mines and water wells on its property before the buildings were completely razed in 1959. One year later, the Marx Brothers bought the land and wanted to turn the area into a cemetery. Luckily, students from the aptly named John Muir High School bought the land and donated it to the Forest Service. Now the land houses several miles of equestrian trails, a small botanical garden, and the entrance to the Echo Mountain Trail.

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The trail crosses a flood control area and begins zigzagging its way up the southwest base of Echo Mountain. This section of the trail is very heavily-traveled, but is in excellent shape – especially for such a popular trail. The path is very well maintained, and I only noticed a few minor examples of trail trash on the way up. The grade is nice and easy, too — it’s about 3 miles from the bottom of the mountain to the resort ruins, at just over 1400 feet of incline. There’s a lot of switchbacks, yes, but you’ll feel like you’re making enough progress where it won’t bother you.

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The trail does get more rugged the further along you hike, but nothing’s too bad on this stretch. If you’re hiking in the morning, you’ll get plenty of shade while climbing the west side of the ridge — otherwise, you’re not getting much of any shade. The first time I hiked this was in the middle of May in jeans and a long sleeve shirt. Needless to say, I lost a lot of water weight that day. But be sure to enjoy the views as your rise above the cities and into the mountains!

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At around the 3 mile mark, you’ll reach a plateau and come upon a silver plaque from the National Register of Historic Places — which is always a way to catch my eye, if you’re ever wondering. It marks the section of the trail where you’ll meet up with the old grade for the Mount Lowe Railroad – a twisted series of cliff-side rails that used to bring paying customers to the Echo Mountain Resort from a nearby stop-off point.

Today, all that’s left are a few sections of iron track, the grade, and some abandoned gears near the old hotel…

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Brush-clearing from volunteers and Forest Service staff have revealed additional ruins that were previously covered up.

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The hotel itself is almost entirely gone, but a series of plaques and laminated photos around the site does an excellent job of recreating the splendor of the place in its heyday. At the main foundation of the Echo Mountain House, you can still easily make out the different rooms on the floor plan — and you can also see Inspiration Point in the distant mountains (in the saddle on the left). But you’ll probably have more fun imagining yourself at the same site at the turn of the century, comparing the old pictures with what’s left over.

By the time he retired to Pasadena in 1888, Professor Thaddeus S. C. Lowe had already checked quite a few items off of his bucket list. The mostly self-taught New Hampshirite was famous for his early meteorological theories and exciting ballooning adventures as well as his exploits as the U.S. Army’s first Chief Aeronaut of the Union Army Balloon Corps. Lowe built a fortune from his inventions and patents on ice making machines and hydrogen gas manufacturing. Even after he retired, Lowe built a gas works, ice-making company, and founded two banks … and that still wasn’t enough.

After meeting the engineer David Joseph Macpherson, the two conspired to build railways into the San Gabriels. A toll road to Mount Wilson nixed their first plan, but in 1892 the pair began construction on the world’s first electric-powered incline railway from Rubio Canyon to the summit of Echo Mountain. A hotel and pavilion were built first at the bottom of Rubio Canyon in 1893, quickly followed by the Chalet and Echo Mountain House atop Echo Mountain itself by 1894. Not satisfied, Lowe also built a small zoo, an observatory, and installed the world’s largest searchlight atop what came to be known as The White City. More than 30 miles of trails were constructed, along with an extended railway with 127 curves and 18 bridges from the Echo Mountain House to another hotel called Ye Alpine Tavern, completed in 1895. Unfortunately, fire and windstorms destroyed the Echo Mountain House and Chalet by 1905 and Lowe lost ownership of his railway to the Pacific Electric system. That sale provided the railway with the cash for numerous improvements and reconstructions as well as a connection to L.A.’s famous Red Cars—indeed, you can still find locals who remember riding the train from Long Beach all the way to Ye Alpine Tavern.

More than 3 million people rode the trains to these alpine hotels until the Tavern burned in 1936. The last train ran in 1937 and by 1939 the system was being dismantled. By the early 1960s, the Forest Service had destroyed what remained of the Tavern and the powerhouse on Echo Mountain—but the ruins, stories, and photographs of Echo Mountain continue to inspire dreamers today.

For more info and excellent historical photographs, be sure to visit the Mount Lowe Preservation Society at www.mountlowe.org.

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If you want to make some noise, you can even walk around to an old ‘Echo Phone’ — basically just a ground-mounted megaphone that you can shout through to hear an echo. There was another one installed up at Inspiration Point, so patrons could yell to each other. The local wildlife must have loved it.

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When you’re done learning and exploring, head back the way you came and hang a right onto the Castle Canyon Trail. This is a thin, rugged, fairly secluded stretch of trail that will take you far from the (relative) crowds at the old ‘white city’ ruins and deep past Rubio Canyon into the narrow, steep Castle Canyon.

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There are a few stretches along this trail that I remembered as being fairly harrowing when I first started hiking, but this time along I didn’t even notice them. Once the path gets into Castle Canyon, though, it doesn’t take much time climbing up and out of it. It’s a steep, switchbacked, leg-burner. But the great thing about it is that you can’t really see the Inspiration Point pavilion until you’re almost there. So when you’ve just about lost your motivation, you get it all back again in one nice visual.

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At Inspiration Point, you can get even more of your history on with a few more plaques, and take a look through some restored “finding tubes,” which show viewers a certain location on the horizon — if you can cut through the haze.

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From here, you can explore the site of old-time Sunday services, or keep traveling up another old railroad grade to the site of the Ye Alpine Tavern wilderness hotel at the Mount Lowe campground, and continue on to Mount Lowe — or you can take the Sam Merrill trail back down to the Echo Mountain ruins.

The Sam Merrill Trail is another treat to travel down — the first section is entirely on the north side of the mountain. The trail is cool, rugged, and well-shaded — which will surely be a welcome environment after trudging up the Castle Canyon Trail.

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On the south side of the mountain, though, the trail returns to shadeless chaparral, and has a few sections with deep gouges — both from water erosion and mountain bikes. Just north of the Echo Mountain hotel, you can also stop off at the ruins of an old observatory, and gaze down on the L.A. that is while sitting near the L.A. that was.

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127 Comments

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Butterboy Apr 16, 2017 18:04

I did the hike yesterday 4/15/17 (tax day). Started around 7:30am and took the Sam Merrell trail up to Inspiration Point. I decided to skip Echo Mountain for the trip down because I didnt want to lose my motivation to hike. I swung by Echo Mountain on the way down and got to try out the echo phone. It works! There was a few washout spots but nothing too bad. Took the Mt. Lowell Railway trail back down which was a nice wide trail and much less rocky. My fitbit showed 14 miles that way which was a bit more than I planned. Thanks for all the tips. They were great, in fact, I printed out your map and referenced it all the time.

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Rebeca Mar 14, 2017 01:03

Did the trail to the hotel ruins & railway on echo mountain last weekend for the first time. For me, it was difficult !! not a lot of shade & very hot.... there & back was about 5 miles. It was worth it :) Beautiful views & a very interesting historical site. Awesome Hike! Maybe one day I will make it to Inspiration point?

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Karina S. Mar 8, 2017 20:03

Looking forward to doing this trail as part of my 52hikechallenge, when I arrive in CA on Friday 3/10/2017 from WA State. Thanks for all the great info. Will let you know how it went.
-Karina

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Casey Schreiner Feb 2, 2017 19:02In reply to: Katerina

There are likely to be a few washouts or eroded areas from the rains but I haven't heard or seen anything that should give someone reason for concern about hiking the trails. This area was not involved in any fires last year so you'll only see remnants of the 2009 Station Fire on the north side of the slopes!

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Katerina Feb 2, 2017 18:02

Has any one hiked this trail since the heavy rains these past 3 weeks?
And does any one know if the trail has been affected by the summer fires?
thank you!

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Casey Schreiner Aug 19, 2016 12:08In reply to: Renee Barrientos

No, no - city lights! :)

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Renee Barrientos Aug 18, 2016 10:08In reply to: Casey Schreiner

Hi...What lights are you referring to? Is the trail lighted at night?

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Joseph Michael Dunn May 10, 2016 00:05

Does anybody feel that with proper funding that Mt. Lowe could be resurrected? I have a wild thought of getting a spurt of the LACMTA Gold line up the mountain and have a hotel at the top with camping grounds.

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susie Walsh Nov 29, 2015 08:11In reply to: Gayane

I just did it yesterday and it was just under 17 total. boy was i tired last night!

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Casey Schreiner Aug 4, 2015 13:08In reply to: Angel Sanchez

Do you mean hiking to Mount Lowe? Totally doable! Again, just make sure you budget enough time for it (and try to get an early start because there's almost no shade along that entire route). We have directions to Mount Lowe from the north, but you can check out the page and zoom out on the map to see exactly where you'd come from if you headed in from Inspiration Point instead.

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Angel Sanchez Aug 4, 2015 13:08

I think this might be the same question that was asked earlier, but from Inspiration Point, would it be unreasonable to try to get to the next highest peak North of Inspiration Point? I know to get to Muir Peak, you head Southeast, which would be nice, but I wanted to keep heading North but have never gone since I’m usually alone out there at night. I would be taking my cousin, and we have done the 10 mile loop before, but wanted to go farther up.

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Casey Schreiner Mar 18, 2015 07:03In reply to: Marc

I think a lot of us have - it's really beautiful up there watching the sun set and the lights come up!

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Marc Mar 17, 2015 22:03

Has anyone done a sunset hike before to Inspiration Point?

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Casey Schreiner Feb 14, 2015 08:02In reply to: Gayane

I want to say it'd be an extra 3.5ish miles one-way from Inspiration Point up to San Gabriel Peak one-way. You could hit up Mount Lowe along the way and use this route as a guide!

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Gayane Feb 14, 2015 02:02

Has anyone here ever hiked all the way to the San Gabriel peak starting from the Sam Merrill trail head? Thinking about it and just wondering how many hours it would take. Around 10 or so for the round trip?

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Aidan Jan 3, 2015 19:01

Did the trail out to the hotel this morning. Really easy to follow. So amazing to see the old foundations up there. Incredible that they achieved that over 100 years ago! Thanks for the write up Casey!

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Casey Schreiner Oct 17, 2014 10:10In reply to: David

Hey David - the descent on the old rail path would definitely be a more gradual decline - and it's a nice hike, too. I say go for it!

Also, welcome to the site! Hope you enjoy poking around and finding new trails - and if there's something we don't have, let us know so we can go track it :)

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David Oct 15, 2014 20:10

Thinking about doing this, with the possibility of returning from Inspiration Point to Echo Mountain along the Mt. Lowe railway bed. I don't think that would add more than a mile or two, right? Or would it be easier to take the rail bed out and one of the other trails back? I've had some knee pain on descents on longer, steeper hikes like Mt. Baldy, but Henninger Flats was not a problem. It seems like this would be a reasonable hike, and the history certainly sounds interesting.

I've just spent more time reading the various sections of this site. Why didn't I know about all of the hikes in the San Gabriel's?!?

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Casey Schreiner Aug 25, 2014 09:08In reply to: Anna

Anna,

That is correct - the Sam Merrill and Castle Canyon Trails are now open, although I can't vouch for what condition they're in. Some of the previously closed trails like those to Fox Mountain and Condor Peak are nearly impassable right now.

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Anna Aug 25, 2014 03:08

I understand that that both the Sam Merrill and Castle Canyon trails have been opened and that your note of caution is no longer applicable. Can you confirm my understanding of this?

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oatatca Dec 26, 2013 13:12

Thank you so much for writing up the hiking trial to Echo Mountain. I did hiking to Echo Mountain yesterday and was very interested in reading the history.
When I searched the web for the history, I found yours. I wished I read yours before going there.
I will come to this web more often.
Thanks again for your efforts and contribution! Happy New Year!

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Brad Sep 15, 2013 02:09

Oh my goodness, you have an app???? So excited! Thanks to whomever just posted in this thread!

Casey, I've been following you for years, and follow you on Facebook.....how did I not know about this? You should promote it more!

Cheers!

Brad

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Lindsay Sep 14, 2013 19:09

Thanks so much for posting this. This is the best guide to this hike out there and it inspired me to do the hike myself! Love your site, love your blog and love you app.

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Melissa C. Jul 15, 2013 15:07

Great writeup! I've only gone as far as Echo Mountain and then back down, but back when I was an undergrad we used to do it as a night hike when the moon was full. I highly recommend it!

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Alicia Apr 8, 2013 09:04

Thank you for this great guide! My sister and I did inspiration point via echo mountain and castle canyon this weekend, and it was my first ever double digit hike as well! We had a blast. The last half a mile up to inspiration point was a little tough as our legs were fatigued. It took us 3 hours and 38 minutes with a couple of short breaks at both Echo Mountain and Inspiration point. We started at about 6:45 am, so we had most of Castle Canyon to ourselves on the way up which was so serene. Lovely trail!

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Hiker_Bob Sep 12, 2012 14:09

@Melodie: Oops sorry, a little "spasmo" on the keyboard {;-D). Meant to say Lowe "Granodiorite" on my original reply to your geo-question.

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Melodie Sep 12, 2012 14:09

WHOUAAA
Thanx a lot for your fast answer, this is really great !
Although Is there a spelling mistake on "Lowe Grandidiorite"?

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Hiker_Bob Sep 12, 2012 13:09

The "Salt and Pepper Rock" as I call it, is Wilson Quartz Diorite. The "Dalmation" looking rock is Lowe Grandidiorite. Both are metomorphic rock, very common in the San Gabriel Mountains.

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Melodie Sep 12, 2012 13:09

Hello
I also Hiked the echo mountain trail and I would like to know what is the name of that black dotted white rock that is evry where up there, kind of a dalmatian looking rock. Any one has a clue of what it is?
Thx

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Rob Skelton Jul 22, 2012 17:07

Dear Hiker Bob,

In the late '80's, my father and I, together with our Scout Troop (742), untertook to restore the drinking fountain on Echo Mt. as part of a service project in cooperation with the Forest Service and the Sierra Club. (This would be the fountain located at the right side of the ascending trail, standing near the trailhead of the Castle Canyon Trail, right before the ruins located on Echo Mt.)

The last lucid conversation I had with my father before his passing from Alzheimer's in '05 was to make sure that I had the plans for the fountain and the map he'd made of the location of the main valves and the main water supply pipeline for it.

Owing to various problems, I haven't as yet been able to make the trip up to Altadena, to hike up Echo Mt. to verify its condition, etc. as is what I considered to be his wish of me before he passed.

If you or someone else has pictures of this drinking fountain, would you be so good as to send them to me at my e-mail: [email protected]?

It would mean a lot to me if you could.

Sincerely,

Rob Skelton

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May at a Glance « Peaceful Sparks May 25, 2012 21:05

[...] our anniversary hike was rained out, we had to postpone our now annual trip to Inspiration Point. But with the summer comes beautiful hiking weather! We were able to relive our first hike [...]

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crimson_king Apr 16, 2012 11:04

hey bob,

just a quick question......does the "Mt Lowe West Trail" still exist coming down off the peak? My dad and I used to hike this one back in the mid-80s. It was pretty worn and covered over at that time.

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Echo Mountain in April 2012 | maximum adventure Apr 14, 2012 20:04

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kompozr Apr 14, 2012 10:04In reply to: Hiker_Bob

Yes Hiker Bob you're right! But as a kid I grew up in the forest, and for a portion of my upbringing I had the Appalachians in my backyard! So while I may have violated the number 1 rule for hiking, this was much more of an exploratory romp in the foothills, like when I was a kid, and it was fun!

But seriously thank you, so excited to try the 10 mile loop and explore the ruins. Will definitely heed your advice my next trip out.....which we are going today. I'm a little nervous, hoping the mountain wasn't beat up too badly in yesterday's rain.

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Hiker_Bob Apr 14, 2012 07:04

@kompozr: Seems y0u violated the number 1 rule of day-hiking; bring a map of the trail, compass and plan the hike, hike the plan. I can't believe you missed the trail to Echo Mountain. Now I know why Sierra Madre Search and Rescue has been in business for 60 years.

Anyway, if you do attempt this hike again, when you get to the trail register, go north about 50 yards then across the stream bed to pick up the trail. From your posting, it sounds like you never made it to the Echo Mountain ruins.

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kompozr Apr 12, 2012 13:04

Wow, Modern Hiker thank you so much! A close friend and I were wanting to find new hiking destinations and stumbled upon your site.....amazing job! We went out for a hike last week, and while having trouble accessing your site via mobile we just decided to go blind. I excited at Lake Ave and headed north hoping to find a trailhead, which there was. Not knowing where we were going we stayed to the left, leading us up to a covered reservoir of some sorts. We took a small trail on the right of the reservoir, which was a nice hike down to the creek. There was a small canyon (dry creek bed) off to the left that we decided to explore. It was a nice hike at first, but the canyon disappeared and left us with a sandstone mountain to climb, which was okay until we reached the summit.....the rock just started falling apart under our feet. We would look over at the switchbacks on the next mountain over, and all the people on them, and almost wish we were there, but we just kept ascending. At the top the ground really started breaking apart, but through teamwork, caution and determination we made it to the top. Bloody, ashen and dirty, we made it. It seems this path butts right up next to the burn areas of the station fire, and one tree that allowed us to the to the top was completely burned. On the way down we were just glad to be intact, but a few hours later all we wanted to do was do it again. We may tie a rope on to the tree next time to aid anyone who wants to reach the summit, as we literally felt like we were just going to slide off the mountain.

Just curious if anyone else had taken this route. And much thanks for developing this site. I see little advertising, is there anything any of us can do to help? I'd hate to see this site not be updated in the future. You are awesome whoever you are Modern Hiker. But thanks to your site, now we know how to find the real trail next time we venture out (and don't have a death wish)

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NateKat · Echo Mt. Hike Feb 19, 2012 06:02

[...] of Echo Mountain. If we had more time, we would have liked to continue on to Inspiration point (see Modern Hiker’s descriptive write-up), but we only had a couple [...]

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Matt Jan 11, 2012 06:01

hi,

I now live in Escondido, CA. However, at age 12 or 13 in 1986-7 my father drove me up to Mt. Lowe many times and I was just enthralled by the whole experience.

We hiked the Sam M. trail at least half-a-dozen times back then, Castle Canyon, the original rail-bed, Mount Lowe Tavern site, the peak, etc. etc.

I LOVED the peak at Mount Lowe. It was SO high up and there were locator scopes up there at that time (not sure if they are still there, tho). We even drove the Red Box road to Mt. Wilson and went that way through the 1941 tunnel under the mighty San Gabriel Peak and Mount Markham.

At that time, there were NO "historical markers" designating anything!

The best trail in that area is the so-called "Mount Lowe West Trail" coming down off the peak of Mt. Lowe. Does it even exist now? It was beautiful! SO SHADED....lots of leaves on the trail path.

Also, back then, there was no cover roof or ANYTHING except stone foundations at Inspiration Point.....a very quiet place in 1986.

Anyway, I mentioned the memory to my dad recently and his response was that..."They have probably put a McDonald's up there by now" LOL

We also went to Eaton Canyon a number of times (before the graffitti) and have hiked the Idlehour Trail to Mount Lowe......13 miles round trip. I'll tell you, my dad was EXHAUSTED after THAT one! :)

I have a few books and old maps of Mount Lowe that I used to study with complete fascination.

Sincerely,
Matt

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Hiker Bob Jan 5, 2012 22:01

@JT: Make sure you bring sufficient water (I recommend 3 liters) and something to snack and/or lunch on. Also, if you're planning to hike to Inspiration Point, bring some kind of light sweater (Polar-tech) and/or windbreaker. This time of year it can get kind of nippy/windy up there. The weather Saturday is forecasted to be sunny and cool.

Click on the following link for my Inspiration Point Webpage:

http://hikertechnologies.com/echomt06.htm

Then click on the "Basic Info" link, then on the end of the "Topo Maps" text, you will find another link for a printable trail map. My recommendation is, once you get to the Echo Mtn Ruins, take the Castle Canyon Trail up to the Inspiration Point Ramada. It's pretty flat for the first mile, then the trail starts to ascend via a series of switchbacks the second mile. This is the hardest part of this hike.

Once you get to the Ramada, you can either head back down the Castle Canyon Trail or head north for a few hundred feet on the dirt road and on your left, you will come to the junction of the Sam Merrill Trail. Take that and head west and in about and hour or so, you'll circle back to the Echo Mountain Ruins.

Click on my name for my complete Echo Mountain website.

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JT Jan 5, 2012 21:01

Hi!
I'm planning on doing the hike to Inspiration Point this coming Saturday.
Starting at lake Ave. Can you clarify which trail to take? I'm a newbie hiker...
and I want to make sure I'm not taking the wrong trail from the historic remains..

Thanks!
JT

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Cobb Estate Gate Project Sparks Controversy | Modern Hiker Jan 5, 2012 12:01

[...] Cobb Estate is the trailhead for Echo Mountain and Inspiration Point, as well as hikes further inside the Angeles National Forest. I’ll note here that Echo [...]

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Zoji Jan 5, 2012 10:01

Thank you so much for your website! Just hiked Echo mountain last night - and wouldn't have known to do it without your recommendation. I was on a business trip from the East Coast, in LA for just two days, so yesterday afternoon I changed out of my suit and hiked up the mountain. For an advanced beginner it is a moderately - to easy - hike. Beautiful vistas. I was lucky to be hiking later in the day, so I was up on top for the sunset! As I was descending (and grateful for a pretty full moon) I ran into a few folks hiking up. So it is a popular trail, but not so popular that you can not enjoy the nature. The trail is spectacularly well maintained, and I only saw one piece of trash (which I took down with me).
Thanks for the great website! You made my day!

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CW Jan 2, 2012 09:01

I did this again a few months, going the way you described and yes, it was much more enjoyable. To get to Inspiration Point, I took Castle Canyon to Inspiration Point and it was quite challenging! I'm very active and in good shape but still more of an "intermediate beginner" with hiking. To come back down, I took the looooooong way around on the Mt. Lowe Trail to the Cape of Good Hope. I was bummed when I realized how close I had been to Inspiration Point on the Mt. Lowe Trail the last time I went! Anyway, I am really glad that I tried it again and I will definitely do it again in the future.

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Hiker Bob Dec 12, 2011 10:12

@Pkong - followup... I meant to say "...under 8..." for the hike to Echo Mtn. To Inspiration Point, I stick with "not younger than 10."

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Hiker Bob Dec 12, 2011 09:12

@Pkong, I wouldn't do this hike with children younger than 10. Also, this time of year, you must be prepared for inclement weather. I wouldn't take a child younger than 10 to Inspiration Point. Click on my name for my Echo Mtn Hike website.

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pkong Dec 11, 2011 21:12

May I know if this is good for beginner,no hiking experience people and with young kids (5-14yrs old)?
Thank you

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Alina V. Mardesich Nov 21, 2011 13:11

I hiked this yesterday in the rain (heavy drizzle on the way up and downpore on the way down) and I wouldn't call it "moderate" at the pace I was on with the WTC (Sierra Club) group I was with. A little more strenous but doable. There were 20 of us and it felt like a race. I've never hiked at this rapid pace on a hike before. While I wasn't pressured to keep up, I felt that I should at least maintain my pace with the "front" group...which I did. i never fell more than 5 or 6 behind. I am in good shape. Cardio was good...it was my legs. They started giving out around 3/4 of the way up. The last mile was slowwwww...but the view of Inspiration Point at just the right moment made it all worth while. Highly recommend it!

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Mr_Silver Nov 10, 2011 06:11

I haven't done a hike in a very long time. (was eagle scout) I jog about 3x nights a week. So I should be in great shape for it. I think this will be a mild and perfect hike to get me started again. Thanks for posting it and it was a good read.

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Modern Hiker Oct 4, 2011 08:10In reply to: Wonja

No problem, Wonja - thanks for reading and hiking! :)

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Wonja Oct 3, 2011 19:10

I just want to say thank you, morden hiker. I love to go Temescal canyon but wanted a littler bit longer trail (eventhough most of my friend are having hard time over there:)) I found your blog last week. Last Saturday I decided to go hiking by myself and went Echo mountain. It took 4 and half hours. I had nice break on the inspiration point. That was gooood. My legs are still a little bit sore but definitely I will go again. I love that trail!!! Thanks agian :))))

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Modern Hiker Sep 11, 2011 18:09In reply to: CW

CW, you took a left at the junction to Echo Mountain instead of taking a right, and were going the loooooong way around the backside of the ridge (which is in the Station Fire Burn Area and off-limits near the Cape of Good Hope). Try doing it again as I described it - Echo Mountain is one of the most interesting places in the Angeles!

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CW Sep 10, 2011 16:09

I did this today, sort of. I skipped Echo Mountain and just kept going up, past the Cape of Good Hope and onto a fire road that was located in a burn area. It was ugly, and I never saw anything that interesting. I liked the Mt. Lowe plaques along the way. I have no idea how far away or close I was to Inspiration Point before I gave up. I had been hiking for 2 and a half hours and I never saw anything that indicated I was anywhere near it. With no GPS and a very general map of the Angeles in hand, I felt like I was on a hike up to nowhere. It was a pretty disappointing way to spend 4 hours and I am not sure if I will try it again even though it is so close to my house!

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Paul Jenvey May 30, 2011 22:05

I did this loop today, and it was awesome! I tried the loop backwards a week ago, I quit on the canyon trail ascent maybe 300 vertical feet short of inspiration point. I was whipped and it was cold and zero visibility, so it sapped my drive... The canyon trail is very steep and I would recommend this as your decent route the first time you hike this trail. I went up the fire road, by the trail camp, and down the canyon trail.

I'll be back, this hike is 5 miles from my house and a pretty good workout! 5 1/2 hours, I like to check out all the historical stuff...

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Hiker Bob May 26, 2011 09:05

Followup to my previous posting. Lots of Crimson-Spot Rock Roses (Cistus ladanifer) were in bloom near the junction of the Sam Merril and Castle Canyon Trails as you approach the ruins.

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Hiker_Bob May 25, 2011 10:05

Took an old friend from HS on this hike just to Echo Mountain and back. Great weather sunny but cool. Sadly, we had some of that "June Gloom" and couldn't see the ocean on this day. I was amazed to see so many wildflowers still in bloom along the trail. Indian Pink, Wild Cantebury Bells, Yellow Monkey Flower, Black Sage, Chia, Dudlia, Blue Dicks, and many, many more. Now would be a great time to do this hike. Click on the link below for my Echo Mountain Website:

http://hikertechnologies.com/echomttn.htm

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Skyhiker May 24, 2011 20:05

JJ--In addition to the two trails Modern Hiker mentions for getting from Echo Mountain to Inspiration Point, you also have a third option: Following the rail path on the Sunset Ridge ("Cape of Good Hope") trail to the rail bed, then walking along the rail bed. This way is about 1 mile longer than the Sam Merrill, and two miles longer than the Castle Canyon to Inspiration Point.

Although I went to Mt. Lowe instead of Inspiration Point yesterday, I took the middle Sam Merrill and Sunset Ridge trails to do it. Going to Inspiration Point instead of Mt Lowe would have been a shorter hike.

titansoldier2007 gave a fourth option of taking the Sunset Ridge trail from Millard Canyon. That one also intersects with this same rail bed.

A fifth way up to Inspiration Point is to hike out of Eaton Canyon on the Mt. Wilson Toll Road, go 1/2 mile past Henninger Flat, then take the Idlehour trail west 4.5 miles. You'd then join the rail bed right near where the Sam Merrill and Sunset Ridge trails hit the road. From either of those routes, it's then just 3/10ths of a mile east to Inspiration Point. This would make a pretty long day hike, but definitely not impossibly long.

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Henry "Hank" Guardado May 22, 2011 13:05

Ran/hiked it last night. Amazing views and as challenging a trail as they come. Your site has made it possible to find some prime trail running locations. Thanks!!!

Hank

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titansoldier2007 May 20, 2011 13:05

JJ you can car shuttle from sunset ridge trail to echo mountain straight across to inspiration point and back down lake

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MrMoose May 19, 2011 22:05

Great hike, on a decent day. I was looking for a nice hike to do around this section of the ANF, and boy did this please. On the way up to the "Old Hotel" I didn't see too many people, but then again it was still a little early. After checking out the ruins I decided to head on to Inspiration Point. Now this was empty, I didn't see anyone coming down, and I was the only one going up. After a good trek up, I finally saw the structure, and pushed my way to the top. At the top it was around 55° I'd say, and visibility, well check out this picture http:[email protected]/5738581957/in/photostream enough said. Being the chilliness that it was, and being engulfed by this "cloud" I soon decided to head down, but not before peeking at Easter Rock. As a descended the mountain I couldn't help but notice a little cave area, so I climbed up to check it out. If I were ever to get stuck on this mountain overnight, this is the place I'd stay, in fact I'd be lying if I said the thought didn't cross my mind, but alas I continued my descend. Again, not a soul until I hit the "Old Hotel" then it was just herds of people. I went to check out the trail below the Picnic Area, and what used to be Tennis Courts, not to bad, saw a little wildlife on the way down, but my stomach started to grumble so I decided to make my trip back to the car. All in all this is a good hike, even with the zero visibility at the top, I still enjoyed its peacefulness. My only complaint is how busy it got on my way down, but you can't win them all, and being such a great hike, who wouldn't want to do it.

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JJ May 19, 2011 16:05

Does anyone know if there is a back or alternate trail to Inspiration Point? I've done the Echo Mountain trail starting from Lake Ave already and I would love to try a new trail up.

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Echo Mountain Trail | Los Angeles | Hikespeak.com May 10, 2011 05:05

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sara Apr 29, 2011 12:04

I just did the loop last weekend. The Upper Sam Merril isn't closed, but the little stretch between Inspiration Point and the Upper Sam Merril is. It's a giant fire road and a very short distance and didn't seem like a big deal to walk it for such a short distance. Down by Echo Mountain there are no signs at the entry to the Upper Sam Merril indicating that it is closed.

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Modern Hiker Apr 29, 2011 12:04In reply to: mtamburrino22

Echo Mountain is open and you can still get to Inspiration Point via the Castle Canyon Trail. The old railroad grade on the north side of the mountain is closed, though, so you can't do the loop as it's written here.

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mtamburrino22 Apr 29, 2011 11:04

planning on hiking here Saturday - I can't find any recent information on fire closures, anyone know?

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SkyHiker Mar 31, 2011 11:03

That trail is still officially closed (Station Fire Recovery Order).

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Thomas Mar 29, 2011 12:03

Does anyone know if hiking from Wilson down to Inspiration point is still accessible? If so does anyone know how long that hike would be from those two points?

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Let's Do Something Awesome » Post Topic » The City Looks Small from Echo Mountain Jan 17, 2011 14:01

[...] Echo Mountain to Inspiration Point [...]

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Carly Jan 17, 2011 13:01

Did Mt Echo & Inspiration Point last Saturday - it was perfect weather & beautiful - very clear. I brought 1.5 liters of water & ran out, so make sure you bring plenty of water. It reminded me of Mt Baldy, so if you're planning on doing Baldy anytime soon, this is a great route to get you ready. Also, Mount Lowe campground and the Sam Merrill trail were bot closed due to hazardous conditions, so I had to backtrack the whole way back.

It took me exactly 4 hours and 40 minutes!

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Echo Mountain, Inspiration Point… and extra | Off Track Sep 2, 2010 06:09

[...] better trail resources than I could ever be: Modern Hiker [...]

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iyyappan Aug 2, 2010 14:08

We went to Inspiraton just 2 days ago.
It was tough.

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Hank Jul 5, 2010 17:07

The last couple of times I returned by way of Castle Canyon trail, the same way I went up. As a trail runner. some of the terrain on Castle Canyon trail can be a serious ankle buster. Today I met a couple of hikers at Inspiration Point who pointed me to the Sam Merrill trail. They say it adds a 1/2 mile but the terrain is much better and, sure enough, it was! Your description of the trails are dead on accurate. I took a few of the same pics you have on your site. I really need to get a Garmin to download my mileage, pace, and elevations. Thanks Casey for you website!!

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Mauimattipus May 23, 2010 22:05

Did the Echo portion again on Saturday, and just in case anyone is a rookie on the site, please be advised how much poison oak is on the lower section of the trail right now. Like crazy much. Like if you don't pay complete attention, you'll be taking a rash home as a souvenir. Get to know this plant for 100% sure, and be in mind that after our wet winter it will be green for a couple months more, so the red trick doesn't work.

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Bob May 23, 2010 21:05

Answers to a couple of questions above:

The Lower Sam Merrill Trail is open from the Cobb Estate to Echo Mountain (White City). That's 2.7 miles from the Cobb gate to the ruins. There are three trails from Echo Mountain to get to Inspiration Point and Mt. Lowe Campground:

(1) Castle Canyon (2 miles) is open. Follow the sign on Echo Mountain that says Inspiration Point. There is a large bee-hive in a hollowed out tree at mile 1.5 on the right; be careful.

(2) The Middle Sam Merrill trail goes up a different route. From Echo Mountain there is a sign that says Mt. Lowe Campground 3 miles. That one is open too. It takes you 2.5 miles up to the Mt. Lowe Railway Trail. You make a right at the fireroad and walk another quarter mile to Inspiration Point. That 400 yards is, in fact, in the fire exclusion zone, but I don't think anyone will give you a hard time about it. This 2nd trail I think is the best--it isn't as steep, has better views, and you go past the old observatory. But you can make a loop by going up Castle Canyon and back down the Middle Sam Merrill Trail.

(3) You can take the west trail across the gorge on the old railway bed and meet up with the Mt. Lowe Railway Trail lower down the mountain. But this would require hiking about 3 miles in the exclusion zone. Again, I don't think anyone has been fined ($5,000 max if you read the statute) but lots of people take that part of the trail.

Enoch and David mentioned another trail that starts at the top of Lake Street and goes straight up the ridge west of Echo Mountain and connects to the Mt. Lowe Railroad Trail. This is actually a "tractor cut" path which acted as a fire break during the Station Fire. It stops 150 yards short of the fire road, and that last 150 yards is scary, easily a 45 degree climb, perhaps not technical but it's a hand-and-feet scramble and easy to lose your footing. I watched about 10 people climb that today, but I'm too old and acrophobic for that.

I'm taking an informal group up from the Cobb gate at 9:15 a.m. next Saturday, May 29 to Echo then Insipiration and the Mt. Lowe Campground, and loop back. If you are interested, ask for Bob at the gate. Bring water. We're not terribly fast but we will won't be lollygagging either. [email protected]

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elisa May 18, 2010 19:05

Doing this hike on Sunday for the first time. looking forward to it!

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David May 18, 2010 13:05

The Sam Merril trail up to white city, and the Castle Canyon Trail up to inspiration point are both open at this time (the fire burned right up to inspiration point, but left the structure intact). The Mt. Lowe railroad route and the other trails up to the summit are still closed (although lots of people seem to be ignoring the closures and hiking them anyway).

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maryrocks33 May 18, 2010 12:05

Hey Hikers,

Is this trail up and running now or still afected by the Station Fire?
Thanks!

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enoch May 18, 2010 08:05

thanks for the replies. I will be doing this hike again this weekend with a friend. I know the bees dont mean any harm, it was just a lot bit startling. The fact that they were traveling up a ravine also added to the effect, as i perceived them to be coming up, and at me (and it didn't help my state of mind that i was wearing a shirt from Target with their logo on the front). Of course, at my level they were overhead. Next time coffee or beer doesn't do the job...nevermind, bad joke.

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Zebra24601 May 17, 2010 22:05

I had a large swarm pass over me when I was in Joshua Tree last month. Your whole body vibrates from their buzz.

The good news is, when they're swarming, they're not in hive defense mode. They're not looking for someplace or someone or something to attack. They're just looking for a new tree or cave to move in to.

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Modern Hiker May 16, 2010 08:05In reply to: enoch

I've encountered bee swarms in the San Gabriels, too - but in my experience they usually just fly overhead. But yes, they're LOUD and huge and can really put you on edge. I'd be interested to hear if anyone else has any more information on what these guys are doing.

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David May 15, 2010 17:05

The 'trail' you described goes up the west side of the canyon from the Sam Merril trail and eventually runs into the old Mt. Lowe railroad route. The steep hill you talked about runs into the large cut along the ridgeline that you can see from the freeway. I haven't personally hiked it, but I saw people struggling up it from the other side of the canyon. You can get to the same place by hiking almost all the way to White City on the usual trail and then following the remains of the old rail route west instead of east at the top. Unfortunatly much of the Mt. Lowe Railroad route is within the burn area and therefore illegal to hike on at this point, but last time I was in the area the signage was spotty and there were lots of people hiking both the route you talked about, and the actual route as I described it.

Hope this helps :)

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enoch May 15, 2010 16:05

Does anyone have information regarding the 'trail' just west of the main echo mt trails? It's on the west side of the canyon, extremely steep, and it may go up to Mt. Lowe road. I tried going up this way, but turned around just under the road because I didn't feel like scrambling up the loose rock w/o a hiking partner. I also had a pretty scary bee encounter at that point. I was tying my shoes when I heard this buzzing sound that got louder. I looked up and saw in the distance an insanely huge swarm of bees. There were easily hundreds of them, possibly over a thousand. I ran down the ridge a bit to avoid their path (of death?). I've never seen anything like it. I'm curious to know if anyone's encountered this before? Given the number of bees on this mountain in general, i'm sure other have had the pleasure.

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Made in China May 3, 2010 23:05

Made in China

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Mike Apr 18, 2010 15:04

Did this hike today - meant to start at 7am but ended up being closer to 8am. We got to the top with a group of 11 of us around 11am. Unfortunately due to LA haze we were unable to see much in the distance. It was a good challenging hike once we got past Echo Mountain. I really enjoyed and I think almost anyone is able to accomplish this one.

I was in tons of pain traversing down the mountain due to a recent back injury and also wear hiking shoes that were probably a 1/2 size too small. REI will be seeing me soon!

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Filip Apr 9, 2010 13:04

Hiked this on 4.6.10 with a friend (girl) and was treated to amazing weather and a beautiful hike. Took us ~7 hours to do the whole thing up to Inspiration Point with plenty of stops. Started at 12:30 PM, which was a little late so we got back just as the sun went out of sight. My friend had never hiked up any real mountain but did well on this trip. At Inspiration Point, my friend rested as I went peak hopping for a half hour along the little ridge there.

Thanks for the fantastic write-ups. I'm new to the area (from New England) and this definitely helps me plan some trips.

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Jose Miron Apr 6, 2010 12:04

Thanks Modern hiker, this is my third hike using your directions, information and recommendation, you’ve got a great resource here.
This one in particular is a good workout with some amazing views.
Do you know if I can do an overnight on or around the Echo Mountain House area?
I'm sure the night view is just amazing!

Thanks again

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Cord Apr 5, 2010 12:04

Did this hike with my brother on Saturday, April 3. It's a great hike, but quite a workout. We took the Castle Canyon trail up and back since the Merrill trail is still closed. No joke, the Castle Canyon trail is steep. Several times I had to stop and ask myself why the hell I do stuff like this but once we made it to Inspiration Point it was all worth it. The view was incredible, we were above the clouds covering the LA basin. It was interesting to see that the Station Fire had made it all they up to the ridge but spared the Inspiration Point lookout area. We started hiking around 7:3o which meant most of the hike up was shaded by the mountain side, on the way down we were glad we had started early after seeing others sweating lots and working their way up in the sun. Modern Hiker, keep up the great work! I love this website and you have pointed me to some really amazing hikes.

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David Mar 19, 2010 10:03

I did this hike two weeks ago and there was about 4 inches of snow on the ground up at the top. It rained, it hailed, it was sunny and hot, it was awesome (although I think we spent half our time putting on and taking off our rain shells). As far as the closures go: there are signs up at inspiration point saying everything past it is closed (and it's clear why, the fire burned right up to the inspiration point structure). Most people we saw up there had hiked up the old railroad route and they all said the first closure signs they saw were at inspiration point.

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sadie Mar 14, 2010 23:03

Thank you!! I'm going to try this next weekend!

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Modern Hiker Mar 14, 2010 20:03

Sadie, you can't go on the upper Sam Merrill Trail. You can hike up the Castle Canyon Trail to Inspiration Point, but you can't make a loop out of it.

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sadie Mar 14, 2010 19:03

So is it possible to go up Castle Canyon to Inspiration Point and down Sam Merrill?

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Mauimattipus Feb 15, 2010 16:02

Hiked this morning- awesome. Totally worth it. Castle Canyon climb after the gentle start was a doozy and a half. At the pavilion, signs posted closing Sam Merrill and routes up the hill toward Mt. Lowe. However, several people I asked on the way up said they'd taken Merrill trail up and were descending Castle Canyon. When I got back to Echo Hotel nothing posted to indicate closure of the other, easier Merrill trail. But since I know the north side of the mountains up there are in the burn zone I'd be foolish to assume it's open.

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Zebra24601 Feb 12, 2010 00:02

Hiked Castle Canyon to Inspiration Point on January 17. Far as I could tell, it was open to Inspiration Point, but absolutely no further. Posted "Trail Closed" signs were on both sides of the pavilion.

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sadie Jan 31, 2010 21:01

Does anyone know if the Castle Canyon trail to inspiration point is open?

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Nhan-Esteban Khuong, L.Ac. Jan 29, 2010 18:01

Awesome hike, thanks for the recommendation! You've got a great resource here.

I've linked to your site from my blog. Check out pictures from my Echo Mountain hike this week.

http://www.nkhuong.com/echo-mountain-barefoot-hike-and-martial-arts

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100th Hike | Modern Hiker Dec 31, 2009 13:12

[...] the end of 2009. Last night he finished the task with a group of friends on a rainy night hike to Echo Mountain, the first hike he did as part of this [...]

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Lars Nov 28, 2009 07:11

I hiked this trail 33 years ago and look forward to doing it again now that I'm 50. I'll probably have to bring water this time instead of beer, oh ya... and a defibrillator. After the station fire I have not checked into the trail conditions so it may be a year or so before I go. If you are a beginner, stay away from Rubio canyon or at least stay on the trails. The terrain is very steep, rough and loose. If you slip and slide down a hill it is like sliding down a cheese grader. Trust me on this one.
Just as an FYI the granddaughter of T. Lowe was Florence Lowe, better known as Poncho Barns. She was a famous stunt pilot and took the womens air speed record from Amelia Earhart. She also owned and operated the "Happy Bottom Riding Club". Google it some time.

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Modern Hiker Oct 13, 2009 13:10In reply to: Michelle Roca

It's ten roundtrip - but some of the route described in this hike may be closed, due to the Station Fire. Pay attention to any notices you see on the trail, and check this previous post.

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Michelle Roca Oct 13, 2009 11:10

Is this 10 miles total (out and back), or 10 miles out, and 10 miles back?

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Alan Sep 15, 2009 14:09

Can you do this hike as an overnight camp out. I'm looking for some short hikes 5-10 miles to do with the boy scouts. Thank you

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Arde Los Ángeles (V) – Esperando « como el agua en el agua Sep 13, 2009 20:09

[...] grande. Hay un sendero, de 7 km de recorrido y unos 830 metros de elevación, que lleva al llamado Inspiration Point, desde dónde en un día claro puede verse todo Los Ángeles, hasta el mar. El camino es bastante [...]

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liz4cps Sep 6, 2009 17:09

I was googling "inspiration point" because I was reading about the station fire and couldn't remember where Inspiration Point was. That led me to this page.

Thanks for the wonderful description! We used to live in Altadena, just a few miles away from this trail head. My husband and I hiked to the top of Echo Mountain twice in the late 80s and early 90s, but we never went over to Inspiration Point. Back then, the plaques weren't up then and we weren't sure what the history was. We knew the Marx brothers had something to do with the site but weren't quite what.

I do remember seeing the gears and wheels up there. I had looked for Altadena history books in the library when I moved there and had found a history of the railway. It's fun to learn some more about the history of the area.

It is a beautiful area. I looked on the LA Times fire map and it looks like the station fire reached inspiration point but didn't touch Echo Mountain. I'm glad it didn't get further than that!

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100hikes.com » » Hike 25 – Sam Merrill Trail (II) Aug 19, 2009 21:08

[...] Hiking Echo Mountain and Inspiration Point [...]

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Michelle Aug 12, 2009 09:08

I did this hike 08/11/09 on a very hazy day and so missed a lot of the scenery... I'll just wait for a rain and try again. Definitely my favorite hike in the Los Angeles County thus far!

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Esther & Ken Aug 2, 2009 13:08

I wanted to note that Mark Gage is an absolute angel on the trail. You will always find him working hard maintaining the trail week after week. If you stop and chat with him, you'll learn that this man is truly dedicated to the trail and has a unique perspective since he hikes, bikes, and maintains! Mark, if you read this, we are the asian couple that gave you a coke once and I usually hike with an umbrella/large backpack. We haven't been hiking there in a while b/c the crowds got pretty intense, but we miss seeing your happy face!

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Mark Gage Jul 5, 2009 17:07

Modern Hiker: I forgot to mention, Castle Canyon is the other trail I adopted. Been trying to make it a little safer over the years. At the same time I'm trying not to make it too bike friendly. I ride it from time to time. It's a beautiful trail. Mark

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Mark Gage Jul 5, 2009 17:07

Modern Hiker: Thank you for the comment on trail condition. I'm in my tenth year of trying to maintain the Lower Sam. We work on it just about every Saturday morning. And you are correct about use. Because there are so many good people that use the trail they help to keep trash to a minimum. If I retrieve it from over the side and put it in view on my way up to work, by the time I come back down it's been taken out for me. Say hi next time you come up. Mark

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Marc May 10, 2009 17:05

I started hiking to echo mountain a few months ago and have explored almost every trail in the area since. The beginning trail, Lower Sam Merril trail can get crowded on the weekend but is a good start. I suggest for the intermediate hiker to not only try the Castle Canyon trail to inspiration point but also try the old railway trail. It has a lot of cool history attached and is less strenuous but much longer. You can see the remnents of the old railway system that ends at the site of the Ye Alpine Tavern(which is now a campground), and you can reach Inspiration point from there in 10 minutes. for the more experienced hiker, I suggest trying the Dawn mine trail which leaves the railroad trail about a third of the way up. When you get to the bottom of the canyon, you will swear you went back in time about 100,00 years!

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GinaC Apr 20, 2009 10:04

Did this hike on Sunday for the second time. I forgot how lovely the Castle Canyon trail was. We did encounter the hive of angry bees as Howard mentions above. I got stung on my hand and my friend got a couple in her leg, but all is well.

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Howard Apr 18, 2009 09:04

Just did this hike yesterday. Great hike, but for those going anytime soon, you might want to take the Upper Sam Merrill trail to Inspiration Point. I encountered some angry bees near a creek about halfway from Echo Mountain to Inspiration Point.

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thislalife Mar 9, 2009 15:03

Dawn Mine is close to here which is a great hike

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Shera Feb 26, 2009 08:02

Thank you Diana and Modern Hiker both. I appreciate your feedback.

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Modern Hiker Feb 26, 2009 08:02

Shera,

If you're worried about mountain bikes, I don't think too many of them go on the Castle Canyon Trail up to Inspiration Point. Also, know that you'll most likely hear them coming long before you see them, and as long as you allow mountain bikers the right of way, you'll have no trouble on the trail. The vast majority of mountain bikers I've seen have been very courteous to hikers. Remember, they don't want to run into you, either!

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Diana Feb 26, 2009 06:02

Shera,

My husband just pointed out that I did not read your question correctly!! OOPS! We did not do the Inspiration point part of the hike!!! We only went up to the hotel ruins and that was fine with the baby in the backpack. So sorry, I hope you read this before you go!

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Shera Feb 24, 2009 18:02

Great! Thanks Diana.

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Diana Feb 23, 2009 19:02

We just did this trail over the weekend and loved the view. My husband carried our 9 month old in a hiking backpack and was fine. We don't hike as much as we would like to so we were a bit sore the next day but it was well worth it!! Thanks for having this blog and the extra info!

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Shera Feb 22, 2009 11:02

Does any one know if this is an appropriate hike with a toddler in a backpack carrier? I would love to make it up to Inspiration Point, but not at the risk of our safety. I've read it's fairly narrow at times and the thought of bikes zipping past is a bit concerning. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Charles Jan 26, 2009 22:01

We did this hike on January 25th and loved it. Views were great until the clouds rolled in. The glimpse back into the history of the San Gabriel Mountains is fascinating. The last mile before reaching Inspiration Point is tough but great for training.

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Echo Mountain Jan 18, 2009 22:01

[...] before noon. I won’t describe all the details of the trail, as many people have already done a far better job. But I will say that this day was one of the clearest I have ever seen. And we haven’t had [...]

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Hilary Jan 14, 2009 17:01

I grew up in Altadena and used to spend many a summer day exploring Mt. Lowe. You can take the old rail bed all the way over to Chaney Trail if you're ambitious and have all day. Thanks for posting this - you've inspired me to get back up there!

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Algis Kemezys Oct 12, 2008 14:10

I had heard of a place that when you shout,lets say "Echo beach far away in time" you will hear 5 echos or more repeating the entire phrase. Is this that place ?asks my friend Grace? In the short video "The Cave of Rigologos" you can hear your echo several times back and forth !

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CJ Fogel Jun 20, 2008 17:06

I did this hike on a mountain bike on a day when it was 100 degrees in South Pasadena. I brought about 2 liters of water and that was not enough. This is a beautiful hike but it can be demanding on very hot days. There is a water fountain at the trail head with very good water but make sure you plan well and be sensible, especially in summer.

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CJ Fogel Jun 20, 2008 17:06

I did this hike on a mountain bike on a day when it was 110 degrees in South Pasadena. I brought about 2 liters of water and that was not enough. This is a beautiful hike but it can be demanding on very hot days. There is a water fountain at the trail head with very good water but make sure you plan well and be sensible, especially in summer.

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[...] get them into nature, but also provide some colorful local history. A shortened version of the Mount Lowe hike gets to some really fascinating remnants of an old resort hotel built by America's first [...]

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[...] get them into nature, but also provide some colorful local history. A shortened version of the Mount Lowe hike gets to some really fascinating remnants of an old resort hotel built by America's first [...]

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Sara Jan 31, 2008 13:01

I just did this hike and it was perfect. I hadn't done that many miles in a while and I was really meaning to stop at Echo Mountain but with Inspiration Point just 2 miles further I couldn't help myself. The climb was even-enough most of the way that I could just truck along, which I like to do, and the view is amazing the entire way. I even caught a nice waterfall half way from Echo Mt. to the Point. I highly, highly recommend this to any moderate hiker looking for a challenge but not a knee-breaker. And thanks SO much for this blog, this is the kind of thing LA outdoors-seekers need.

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